Re: Spec Ops instructors?

To: Chuck Hardin <chardin@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Spec Ops instructors?
From: Chuck Hardin <chardin@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 18:49:23 -0700
Cc: ADE <americandefenseenterprises@gmail.com>
In-reply-to: <F8DC5A38-B688-4AFD-A765-1070552E7882@gmail.com>
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Apparently THR requires a login to read its forums, so here's what I wrote:

"I called Mr. Beasley at 6:22 PM Pacific today, at the invitation of a representative of his school. We spoke for seven minutes.

"Mr. Beasley claimed to be a Vietnam era Army veteran who served in a Special Forces unit. He refused to specify the unit. He did not wish to discuss any specifics of his service, citing the deaths of his friends, the general disregard in which veterans were held upon their return home, and a dislike of boasting about or dwelling upon the past.

"He stated repeatedly that his school was about firearms instruction, not about Special Ops claims or other matters.

"He refused to identify any other instructor who had such a background. I believe he stated that some of them did, but am not sure on this point, and in any case I would find it difficult to inquire into it without names.

"I invite Mr. Beasley or any representative of his school to review this statement, and correct any misstatements or incomplete representations of the conversation. I do not wish to misrepresent his claims and statements."

Best,
CCH




On Sep 15, 2011, at 8:50 PM, Chuck Hardin wrote:

> Thanks for the contact information.
> 
> I've posted a brief digest of my conversation with Mr. Beasley at http://www.thehighroad.org/showpost.php?p=7586523&postcount=12 for your review.  If you believe this summary is wrong, misleading, or significantly incomplete, you may reply on that forum; alternatively, if you prefer, you can email me your corrections, and I will post them verbatim, with attribution.
> 
> I want to be accurate and fair, and I'd appreciate any help you can give me in that regard.
> 
> Best,
> CCH
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sep 14, 2011, at 7:47 PM, ADE wrote:
> 
>> Please call Mr. Beasley to discuss: (310) 514-1020.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Chuck Hardin [mailto:chardin@gmail.com] 
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 3:11 PM
>> To: ADE
>> Subject: Re: Spec Ops instructors?
>> 
>> I use my real name in my email address.  The initials are a signature only.
>> I'm Chuck Hardin.
>> 
>> What is Mr. Beasley's Special Ops background?  I don't need or expect full
>> details, but branch of the military, Special Operations unit, and any
>> unclassified details you can spare would be appreciated.
>> 
>> On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 2:28 PM, ADE
>> <americandefenseenterprises@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Dear CCH,
>>> I assume, by your use of initials rather than name, that you also are 
>>> a person who values privacy.
>>> The statement is accurate.
>>> And, yes, Mr. Beasley does have a Special Ops background.
>>> Sir, we are extremely busy. Can I provide you with any information 
>>> regarding our classes?
>>> 
>>> American Defense Enterprises
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Chuck Hardin [mailto:chardin@gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 7:01 PM
>>> To: ADE
>>> Subject: Re: Spec Ops instructors?
>>> 
>>> It is fine to claim abilities.  I'm discussing your claimed credentials.
>>> You advertise this up front on your web page, so it's reasonable for 
>>> people to ask for details.
>>> 
>>> At least one of your instructors is publicly named:  William Beasley.  
>>> Is he an instructor with a Special Ops background?
>>> 
>>> Are there any credentials you can present in support of the claim in 
>>> general?  Redacted DD-214s for some instructors?  Anything?
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> CCH
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sep 8, 2011, at 6:17 PM, ADE wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Dear CCH,
>>>> We do not give out personal information about individual instructors.
>>>> But, we do stand by our abilities.
>>>> American Defense Enterprises
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Chuck Hardin [mailto:chardin@gmail.com]
>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 2:00 PM
>>>> To: americandefenseenterprises@gmail.com
>>>> Subject: Spec Ops instructors?
>>>> 
>>>> On http://www.americandefenseenterprises.com/about.htm you state:
>>>> 
>>>> "A.D.E. consists of experienced Special Ops and law enforcement 
>>>> instructors offering world-class training in the entire spectrum of 
>>>> small arms weaponry (handguns, rifles, shotguns)."
>>>> 
>>>> Which instructors at A.D.E. have Special Ops backgrounds, and what 
>>>> are those backgrounds?
>>>> 
>>>> Best,
>>>> CCH
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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